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From: Arild Jensen (no email)
Date: Wed Sep 03 2003 - 17:01:25 EDT
Mr. (no name), from the sailing vessel serenity wrote:
But my point was just the opposite - if you jury-rig
you run the risk of the surveyor noticing the use of
non-marine products or practices that may be counter
to ABYC, ABS, CFR, or just plain industry standards.
In such a case the surveyor will certainly write it up
and the insurance company will just as certainly
require it to be brought up to 'standards' even if the
standard used is 'voluntary' ABYC standards.
REPLY
Perhaps the term "jury rig" needs clarification in the context of this
discussion.
If you are talking of "marine" type products as defined in the consumer market
by ABYC and ignore any other standards or even the specified application of
such a products chances are that a surveyor who only deals with recreational
boats will be ignorant of what is really involved.
Someone asked about surplus aircraft 28V breakers.
One brand that I know of is Heinemann who got started in the aircraft business
long before ABYC was invented.
Quality boats in the sixties used these breakers ( hydraulic magnetic) but
the cost was so high only a few were used.
I do not believe Heinemann ever bother to get "marine" qualifications added
to their product.
Ditto with wires and cable for high current applications.
Diesel locomotive cable is every bit as good and in many ways much better than
ANCOR brand cable.
But it is not ABYC listed. some surveyors would reject this cable as being
unsuitable for use on a boat.
Why? Because they are ignorant of the requirements and standards apart from
ABYC.
WAGO makes terminal blocks for use in wiring up to about 2/0 gage wire size.
ABYC does not specifically approve of this terminal block.
That doesn't mean the terminal blocks are not suitable just that ABYC has not
bothered giving their blessing because they have not been paid to do so.
But a recreational surveyor would reject these wiring devices.
regards
Arild
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