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Re: lv-ab: Re: Worthless Circuitbreakers

From: svserenity (no email)
Date: Wed Sep 03 2003 - 13:05:53 EDT

  • Next message: Arild Jensen: "lv-ab: RE: surveys ( was: Worthless Circuit breakers)"

    > ...windlass there should also be an override for the
    > protection circuit that
    > can be activated in the heat of a battle.)"

    Excuse me? As Lew said. the circuit breakers are there
    to protect the insulation, or the wiring. Overload
    protection on individual equipment serviced by that
    particular branch are there to protect the equipment.
    Last thing you should want is some meathead deciding
    'in the heat of battle' that the overload condition is
    acceptable and should be overridden. Got a ammeter in
    every circuit to base this decision on? You must be
    joking.

    > ...Yes I agree with you once again, a circuit
    breaker
    > or a fuse should be there
    > as means to survive a malfunction. As said before
    > my humble "WRONG" opinion
    > is we should not rely on mechanical contacts to
    > interrupt large currents on
    > a regular basis. (BTW: relays also have mechanical
    > contacts.) ...

    Except solid state relays. Sigh. Nothing wrong with
    the mechanical contacts in breakers used for their
    intended purpose. They are designed with proper sized
    contacts, speed, latency, and arc suppression to work
    repeatedly.

    I do agree breakers should not be tripping on a
    regular basis. If a breaker trips you have either a
    poor design (overloaded ciruit) that should be fixed
    or a failure to be diagnosed in the wiring, equipment
    connected, or the breaker itself.

    I also agree it isn't rocket science. Simply buy
    marine breakers for marine applications, dc breakers
    for dc, ac breakers for ac. Follow correct guideline
    for sizing wiring and breakers. If you have to ask if
    the surplus 32V 400Hz breakers from the space shuttle
    program will work on your boat then you don't know
    enough to use them, go back to West Marine. All these
    jury rigs in a boats electrical system aren't going to
    make it past a competent surveyor anyway, and let's
    face it, most of us use insurance companies that
    require periodic surveys.

    >
    > BTW (By The Way) the phrase "Current Flow" is
    > redundant. Current does not
    > flow, "charge" flows, current is "rate of flow of
    > charge". This is another
    > misconcemption people have, just like the
    > characteristics of molded case
    > circuit breakers.

    No misconception here, just semantics. We might as
    well start correcting each others english. You need a
    time out while you send out a lot of corrections to
    text books, trade publications, test equipment makers,
    etc, etc, etc. Unless, of course, Norm read this,
    slapped his forhead while saying "I get it now", and
    changes his electrical religous views.

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