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RE: lv-ab: RE: social mores ( was: rudeness )

From: Greg Daley (no email)
Date: Wed Apr 03 2002 - 17:43:38 EST

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    WOW! Interesting comments. Now, here's the rest of the story.

    It's an Italian boat, designed and made in Italy. The owner purchased it
    four months ago new, but the boat was made in 2000. It does not have an
    inverter in it! The European designers felt, if you want AC power, run the
    generator.

    The generator is in a sound proofed case in a sound proofed engine room with
    the exhaust located under the water line. I've never heard anything
    quieter. But that's not the point. Is it the owner or the boat
    manufacturer "responsible for noise"?

    We have 4 8Ds and one group 27p 27. There is no room for additional
    batteries. The design of the boat is all about form and speed not about
    being practical. If you saw the lack of handholds inside the boat, you'd
    laugh. I delivered it from Seattle and walking in the boat in a seaway
    under power was and still is a real challenge. We are making lots of
    practical changes to make the boat more reliable and safer. Not much you
    can do to quiet down a pair of Caterpillar 3208's nor make the smoke go away
    on start up.

    All these rude statements about sticking potatoes up my genset tailpipe
    should be directed at the manufacturers if you need to be rude to someone.
    Of course if you are so unstable as to perpetrate a criminal act on anyone's
    vessel, you will find yourself in front of a federal judge, who will
    sentence you appropriately - unless you are really good. Who knows what
    security systems people have on board really sophisticated vessels?

    So, get a grip. Have reasonable expectations. And everyone live with
    everyone in peace and harmony. Remember, I still live on my Newport 41
    sailboat. If I want peace and quiet, I sail her to an anchorage that I know
    will be quiet - I don't sail her to Avalon.

    Capt. Greg Daley

    Yacht Management, Power & Sail
    Boat Deliveries and Charters

    www.CaptainGreg.net
    (310) 463-6626

    -----Original Message-----
    From:
    [mailto:]On Behalf Of Arild
    Jensen
    Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:01 AM
    To: Liveaboard List
    Subject: lv-ab: RE: social mores ( was: rudeness )

    Judging by the comments so far I think those people missed the essential
    point of the article - if
    they bothered to read it at all.

    The CNN story dealt with people's perception of social manners and how we
    deal with each
    other. The concensus being that as a society we seem to have less and less
    regard for our
    fellow human beings and are increasingly selfish and self centered in our
    activity.
    Having money doesn't automatically entitle that person to any special rights
    over others.
    That concept died with the feudal system.
    Please note that the website was addressed as http://europe.cnn.com
    It may come as a shock to many Americans but the rest of the world does not
    necesarily view
    them in the same light as they view themselves.

    Regards
    Arild

    > -----Original Message-----
    > To: Liveaboard List
    > Subject: lv-ab: rudeness
    >
    > http://europe.cnn.com/2002/US/04/02/rude.americans/index.html
    >
    > The article above did not mention gensets in particular, but it did
    mention
    > isolation through watching television. Turn the genset and the television
    > off. It also mentioned the attitude, expressed by some on this list,
    which
    > anything one does is okay as long as one is happy. JD?
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