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From: Daryl Manning (no email)
Date: Sat Mar 02 2002 - 11:35:51 EST
Win2K professional. However, it is the French version.
Most of the problems I have noticed occur when there is more than one
user using the machine (ie. multiple user accounts) or you have tried to
set security settings tight.
I find most people that use it as a single-user consumer system have few
problems until some time goes by. I have to admit for the first 3 months
it was quite reliable. However, I've noticed as time goes by the
registry fills up and the system accumulates more "junk" it becomes less
and less reliable no matter how often you clean it, which i find is the
opposite of a linux/bsd system (once you finally get the thing
configured and up properly, it runs till the hardware dies =} ).
Keep in mind, I am also talking from the perspective of a guy who bashes
the hell out of my machine. Most people would not be doing what I do to
my machines or servers. =}
Like I said, mileage and happiness may vary. I don't think Windows is
totally bad, and there are some things is it still does better than
linux/bsd (Access is quite a good interface for relational databases
actually). I just find for my personal needs I really prefer linux for
reliablility, security, extensibility, and remote abilities. It just
annoys me sometimes when I am forced to use windows stuff (like for my
MSc, some of the software required was *only* MS and equivalents were
not accepted... ie. projects required VB/IIS/Access when a better
substitute was Apache/MySQL/PHP).
Also, as I build large systems I really tend to notice the cost
differences. For an individual user it is probably not so noticeable,
but when you're talking over $100k for windows licenses (plus the
hardware costs of more powerful machines to run it and the software you
need which is free) other options start to look mightily attractive. =}
ciao!
Daryl.
On Sat, 2002-03-02 at 20:23, wrote:
>
> From: "Daryl Manning" <>
>
> > OK, I'm really sorry to disagree, but I run the systems for a medium
> > sized investment bank and I have to say that virtually every problem I
> > had on the network or with machines came from Win98/Win2k systems (and
> > they were patched continually to be up to date). > Even my laptop system
> here which dual-boots between the linux and W2K
> > and is fully patched and up to date blue-screens in Win2K once every 2
> > days or so whereas with the linux system I have yet to have any major
> > crash on anything but specific (usually beta) applications.
> >
> Hi, Daryl. Are you using Win2K or Win2K Professional?
>
> When my W98 crashed and my W98 CD was too scratched up to re-install, I had
> to find a new operating system in 24 hours to get payroll out and keep our
> web store up and running. The only ones available at the local store were
> W2K for about $100 and W2K Professional for about $200.
>
> So I've got both packages in my hands and reading the fine print on each
> trying to see what I get for the extra $100. One for one they seemed the
> same until I got to the bottom where it said that the Professional version
> was much more reliable and you wouldn't be spending hours upon hours
> maintaining the operating system. In view of the 25% of my computer time on
> W98 spent keeping it going, I decided to pay the bribe and buy the version
> that had the bugs removed. But what a rip-off. They virtually acknowledged
> that the W2K version had problems and for an extra $100 they would sell you
> the version with the bugs removed.
>
> I must say that after re-installing most of my drivers and applications to
> get them compatible with W2K, it has been incredibly reliable, extremely
> fast and unsinkable with multiple applications running. I have a hi-res 21"
> monitor that I can load up with multiple and complex applications, run
> multiple printers, and network to my wife's computer - all items that would
> have crashed my W98 in no time. I've not had a single crash in 3 months
> that required a re-boot. It periodically detects a problem in an
> application that is running and shuts it down so at least they have
> addressed the problem that many system crashes are due to the application
> and not the operating system. It appears they have installed a software
> firewall in the W2K professional version that monitors everything done in an
> applicaiton and prevents it trespassing into forbidden territory.
>
> Colin Foster,
>
>
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