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Re: lv-ab: How far can a do-it-yourselfer go?

From: Stan Gardner (no email)
Date: Fri Dec 21 2001 - 07:29:14 EST

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    If there's no cost advantage to building it yourself I'm not sure there's
    any advantage at all. If you have the skills to build a boat you certainly
    have the skills to maintain one. After maintaining mine for four years I
    know everything there is to know about it. More than I would like to know
    about some things.

    If you don't have the skills or the inclination to learn them, then all you
    need is money.

    At 07:39 PM 12/20/01 -0500, Doug Crane wrote:
    >this has been an interesting thread on Y-L...the thread is about
    >building/buying a light weight mid twenty footer vs a heavier blue water
    >sailboat a couple feet longer...all of the different opinions have a
    >great deal of merit...after 5 years of owning a trailable 26 foot
    >sailboat and 8 years of building a more substantial 29 footer which i am
    >about to launch...i can certainly conclude the following: ...my hess
    >balboa 26, altough excellent, was much too light, much too much work to
    >day sail and even weekend sail via trailer...trailer was used only twice
    >per year...a slip allowed heavy use for 5 years...i sold it and started
    >dreaming...anybody can build a big boat if you know just a bit about
    >power hand tools...you will learn...however i would not bother to learn
    >about welding ss or machining ss...it takes a lot of experience to tig
    >weld correctly and home equipment will not machine the VERY HARD
    >stainless sleel...i am pleased of my decision to go bronze...home
    >machines work bronze ok...foundries work bronze ok...two of my family
    >members tig weld for a living...a nice benifit...i started with zero
    >money which is why i began with trees and built the hull
    >myself...but...if i were you folks, or if i had it to do over again, i
    >would contract with a custom build canadian firm to build the hull/deck
    >from multiple layers of plywood and epoxy...ship it home and complete
    >the project...using local trade specialists if you have the money....no
    >matter which way you build a boat, you will not end up saving a
    >dime...it will cost you far more...but you will KNOW YOU BOAT INSIDE AND
    >OUT...a wonderfull benefit...including materials, supplies, tools, and
    >my labor time at MINIMUM WAGE, my 29 footer will cost $140,000...i could
    >have contracted with a west coast builder that has built this boat
    >before , had it done...complete...and launched....for $130,000....in
    >1992 dollars...and launched 5 years ago...it's the old money vs time
    >problem...if you have some money...say $50,000 in todays money...i would
    >suggest get the hull and deck built and shipped to your backyard
    >"barn"...takes only a year or so...if you never build the boat, you can
    >sell it for at least half what you paid for it...hell, you would have
    >spent that much on tools and hull materials/supplies anyways...yes
    >building is fun and rewarding in it's own right, but do it now...better
    >yet...do it yesterday...."time waits for no man"...who knows?
    >...health...age...wives...job....nothing stays the same...well, that's
    >my 3 cents....good luck...doug..........s/v NOKIDO itching for salt
    >water............
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    >http://community.webtv.net/nokido2/PARDEYSISTERSHIP
    >
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