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From: Stan Gardner (no email)
Date: Thu Dec 13 2001 - 07:35:46 EST

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    Although a little harder to deal with, case hardened chain cannot be cut
    with even good chain cutters. You would need an acetylene torch. A piece
    of hose over the chain would keep it from beating up the finish and stop
    the noise. You would need a good case hardened lock to go along with
    this. Where you put the chain is the bigger issue. A stainless loop
    screwed to the transom can be cut with cheap cutters or a hack saw. Maybe
    a hole drilled thru the transom would work, but is this something one would
    want to do? A clamp similar to the way an outboard can be locked to the
    transom would be nice. I need another weekend project. My boat just isn't
    taking up enough of my time.

    At 05:34 PM 12/12/01 -0600, Keith wrote:
    >Know what you mean. I thought mine was stolen awhile back, but it turned
    >out the marina had scarfed it because I had it parked in an empty slip.
    >Nice folks, eh? Anyway, I asked how folks locked up their dinks while
    >cruising. Here's the best answer I got, which is what I did. I feel much
    >better now!
    >_________________________
    >Chain is too easy to cut with real cheap chain cutters. That's why
    >most "bluewater" cruisers use a longish piece if s/s cable with finer
    >wires - something like 7x7. It takes cable cutters to get through this
    >stuff. Chain cutters are flat faced and only push the cable strands
    >around. We use about 20 or 22 ft of white plastic cover cable with
    >3-4" loops in both ends. I have a big 3/8" s/s "U" mounted thru the
    >transom with the s/s threaded part outside the nuts mushroomed so the
    >nuts can't be easily backed off. Drill holes thru the oars, removable
    >seats, etc. Loop the s/s cable thru the "U" bold, thru the oatboard
    >carrying handle, the oars, seats, etc then back thru the eye on the
    >other end of the cable. This leaves you about 15-18 ft of cable that
    >you can attached to the dock or whatever. Put a well oiled hardened
    >padlock on the loop and lock the loop to the cable after the end is
    >secured thru something. Most thieves will look elsewhere. There are 2
    >other advantages of 18 ft of cable - It keeps dingy docks less crowded
    >as your dingy can float well out of the way - and - in corally, sharp
    >rock places you can get out ashore and throw the dingy anchor on a
    >30-40 ft line out as far as you can throw. The anchor will hold the
    >dingy off the sharp stuff and the cable can be used to pull the dingy
    >back in.
    >
    >Sam Densler wrote:
    > >
    > > Interesting you bring up dinghy theft on the list today. Last night
    > > I arrived at my home and found a large vacant spot where I keep my
    > > dinghy tied up. I have lived there for a year and a half and never a
    > > problem, until now. Most of us liveaboards keep our RIBs up on the
    > > dock in front of our boats tied (not locked) to a dock cleat. I
    > > know, I should have known better. Pretty good shopping for crooks,
    > > there are 5 or 6 RIBs of different sizes and makes to choose from. I
    > > guess mine looked the best (or easiest to get away with). I am not
    > > even sure that a lock would help since anything I could lock to could
    > > be easily cut. Maybe one of those pepper spray fire extinguishers
    > > hidden underneath with a trip line :-) Any interesting designs M.
    > > Mech?
    > >
    > > Anyway, thanks to the list for letting me vent. What a horrible
    > > violated feeling this is. I am loosing faith in my fellow man. It
    > > is amazing that such a tight community that would give the shirt off
    > > their back to a fellow sailor can be violated by some *&%# with
    > > nothing better to do than ruin someone's day with such a petty act.
    > > The sad part is that it my $1500 RIB was probably traded for $50
    > > worth of crack. Kinda spoiled the beautiful sunrise this morning.
    > > Oh well, tomorrow is another day. I guess I'll start with ebay and
    > > see what is available...
    > >
    > > Feeling lost without a dinghy :-(
    > > Sam
    > >
    > > At 5:34 PM -0500 12/12/01, Brent Evers wrote:
    > > >Great answer Rick - and some really good ideas -
    > > >
    > > >My post pertained to being at sea or in a relatively remote
    > > >anchorage with no other boats around.
    > > >
    > > >I've no problem with locals approaching the boat to offer their
    > > >services - I do however, keep my eye on them and watch for anyone
    > > >'casing' the boat and its gear for petty theft at a later time.
    > > >
    > > >As for being in port, and preventing dinghy theft and the like, the
    > > >'shared' watch is a great idea - no use in everyone being up..
    > > >
    > > >Best Regards,
    > > >
    > > >Brent
    > > >Baba 35
    > > >
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    >Keith
    >"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
    >didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
    >away
    >from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
    >Dream.
    >Discover." - Mark Twain
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