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From: Jack Beale (no email)
Date: Mon Dec 03 2001 - 16:16:46 EST
Susan,
Like the man said: "You can still get a virus using NetScape...!" However, Netscape's address book usually won't spread viruses like the Outlook programs will. But, that said, many viruses can still spread using their own built-in e-mail client on your server no matter what e-mail client you use... even NetScape. If you think you're protected just because you use NetScape, or Eudora, or Opera, or some other e-mail client, you're fooling yourself.
P.S. = And, NetScape is just a couple steps (at least) behind IE and OE in terms of functionality and ease of use.
Jack Beale
S/V Wildest Dream, Ho380
http://home.att.net/~jack.beale/computerguy.htm
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----- Original Message -----
From: Keith
To: Susan Esher
Cc: ; liveaboard List
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: lv-ab: virus was: Clogged Drains & Long Hair
Another reason I'm glad I still use Netscape.
Susan Esher wrote:
>
> This is correct. According to Microsoft, if you have the SP2 patch for IE
> 5.01 or IE 5.5, your outlook express will also be covered. I upgraded to
> SP2 on IE 5.01 after I got the badtrans virus (I use outlook express).
> Then, someone tried to send it to me again and I didn't get it, so I can
> vouch for the fact that the patch works, at least for this virus.
>
> Fair winds,
> Susan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daryl Manning" <>
> To: "liveaboard List" <>
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:07 AM
> Subject: RE: lv-ab: virus was: Clogged Drains & Long Hair
>
> > Actually, you're not protected against the virus. You're protected against
> > automatically being infected by the virus through outlook. Always make
> sure your antivirus software definitions are up to date.
> >
> > Also, keep in mind, there are a slew of security holes in MS that you are
> > not getting informend about either (take a look at their site, or even
> > better the bugtrak site and see for yourself).
> >
> > The virus as the person mentioned correctly (badtrans.b) takes advantage
> > of a vulnerability in Outlook (and I think OE as well) to infect you
> > atuomtaically. If you've put the SP2 patch for IE 5.5 in you should be ok.
> >
> > Daryl.
> > Paris, France
> > doublebooting linux and win2k =}
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> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De :
> > [mailto:]De la part de Steve
> > Weinstein
> > Envoyé : lundi 3 décembre 2001 04:17
> > À : liveaboard List
> > Objet : Re: lv-ab: virus was: Clogged Drains & Long Hair
> >
> >
> > I'm not going to defend MD (M/S...?) but the one thing they do to rectify the
> > various bugs in their system(s) is to alert users to various bug fixes through
> > their Live Update program. Granted sometimes it's a pain in the ass to be
> > interrupted by the Live Update window popping up and asking do I want to
> > download now or later. I usually say "later" and close the window. But I
> > do get around to checking the various updates and service packs available.
> >
> > I mention this because I run Outlook, Outlook Express, and IE5.5 and seem
> > to have dodged this new Badtrans virus. MS had a service pack (I forgot the
> > number) earlier this summer which addressed security holes in the system
> > and plugged them. Between the updates and Norton (and their weekly Live
> > Updates) I guess I was protected (knock fiberglass).
> >
> > Steve Weinstein
> > Hydro-Therapy
> > A 1981 Cherubini 33
> > Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Dubnoff" <>
> > To: "liveaboard List" <>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 9:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: lv-ab: virus was: Clogged Drains & Long Hair
> >
> >
> > > At 08:03 PM 12/2/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Steve,
> > > > I think you are wrong on this. It can be recieved by anyone on the
> > > > list or any computer BUT it can only be spread by users of Outlook
> > > > and Outlook Epress.
> > >
> > > I agree -- I have received numerous copies in the last week or so. But
> > > they are harmless to me, as my e-mail program (Eudora) will not execute
> > > the code. One of the simplest ways to protect yourself and others is to
> > > just say no to such "free" Microsoft software as Outlook Express.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steve Dubnoff
> > > Nauticat 40 M/S, Pyxis, in Washington
> > >
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