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Re: lv-ab: Combiners to be demistified - please

From: Richard Goodwin (no email)
Date: Thu Nov 01 2001 - 10:50:10 EST

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    There are two sources of spikes from a starter (at least): Brush noise,
    and a big spike when you let off the starter button and the solenoid
    breaks contact. Brush noise can be transmitted through the air as
    well. Other sources of spikes or "noise" are: turning on or off any
    electrical switch, especially a switch to an inductive load like a
    motor, motor brushes, generator brushes, alternator or other charger
    pulsating DC voltage output, ignition point break if you have a gasoline
    engine with mechanical distributor.

    The above are soruces of noise directly on the power line itself. Noise
    can also be induced in the power lines from outside sources, such as
    spark plug wires, brushes, switch sparks, any sparks, lightning in the
    vicinity, 120v power lines, ignition from passing vehicles, etc.

    Most noise can be minimized by putting a suitably sized capacitor
    between +12 and ground, and/or by putting an inductor in series with the
    +12 line. The size of the capacitor or inductor depends on the
    frequency and amplitude of noise. To absorb a really big inductive
    voltage spike, such as from point break or starter solenoid break would
    require a larger capacitor than small motor brush noise.

    A typical filter for electronic devices such as radios can be installed
    close to the radio itself, and consists of a capacitor between +12 and
    ground, plus an inductor in series with the +12 line. The inductor
    resists passing higher frequency noise, and the capacitor shorts the
    higher frequency noise to ground. Many mobile electronics units have
    such filtering built in to the unit itself or into their power line
    connection.

    Noise generated by a starter or other motor can be filtered at the
    source, since that will protect the rest of the +12 system. Generators
    and points, e.g., have capacitors to ground from their +12 connections.

    Noise elimination can be as much of an art as a science in some cases.
    Success depends on discovering the source(s) of the noise(s), and
    putting in the right kind of filtering. To protect against large
    inductive spikes such as from a starter you need a large capacitor to
    absorb the energy of the spike before it gets into your electronics. It
    might be easier and safer to just disconnect the sensitive loads first,
    as has been suggested, since starting can involve dramatic variations in
    battery voltage that cannot be filtered out.

    Dick

    Gary Hawkins wrote:
    >
    > > the checklists? Make SURE all avionics are switched off before starting. The
    > > voltage kick from the starter can destroy them. Same for VHF radios,
    > > fathometers, autopilots, GPS, etc. I rewired my engine lead directly to the
    > > starting battery terminal of the switch, so I can leave everything on to
    > > crank up.
    >
    > At an aircraft parts supply I noticed they sell a .05 1000V capacitor. Was
    > told that it was to eliminate engine noise in the radio. But, would it also
    > reliably absorb such a spike from the starter? (Simply wired from positive
    > battery wire connection on the starter, to cap, then engine block).
    >
    > /g
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