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RE: lv-ab: Overtaking vessels

From: Greg Daley (no email)
Date: Thu Sep 27 2001 - 10:53:25 EDT

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    >The passing rules only have effect if there is danger of collision. Normal
    >overtaking, while I suppose it could go drastically wrong if the overtaken
    >vessel makes a turn into the path of the oncoming vessel, does not usually
    >have that element of danger that the rules are designed to prevent. When
    >boats overtake me they are on a parallel course with me, not an
    intersecting
    >course. I see nothing in the rules that demand an overtaken vessel
    maintain
    >speed if the overtaking vessel is not on a collision course with him.
    >
    >Norm

    Norm,

    Sorry Norm, you are wrong on two counts. First, if you are in sight of
    another vessel within a half mile, signals are MANDATORY Inland (not so
    International). (Don't forget, sailboat with engine on is a power-driven
    vessel.)

    RULE 34
    Maneuvering and Warning Signals
    (a) When power-driven vessels are in sight of one another and
    meeting or crossing at a distance within half a mile of each other,
    each vessel underway, when maneuvering as authorized or required
    by these Rules:
    (i) shall indicate that maneuver by the following signals on her
    whistle: one shod blast to mean "I intend to leave you on my
    port side"; two shod blasts to mean "I intend to leave you on
    my starboard side"; and three short blasts to mean "I am
    operating astern propulsion".
    (ii) upon hearing the one or two blast signal of the other shall, if
    in agreement, sound the same whistle signal and take the steps
    necessary to effect a safe passing. If, however, from any
    cause, the vessel doubts the safety of the proposed maneuver,
    she shall sound the danger signal specified in paragraph (d) of
    this Rule and each vessel shall take appropriate precautionary
    action until a safe passing agreement is made.

    Second, the stand on vessel is required to hold course and speed.

    RULE 17
    Action by Stand-on Vessel
    (a) (i) Where one of two vessels is to keep out of the way, the other
    shall keep her course and speed.
    (ii) The latter vessel may, however, take action to avoid collision
    by her maneuver alone, as soon as it becomes apparent to her
    that the vessel required to keep out of the way is not taking
    appropriate action in compliance with these Rules.

    Of course the reality is that slowing down to be passed makes more sense
    than receiving a bad wake. But if something goes awry, could an attorney
    nail you for doing so? Probably so. Personally, I'd slow down as you do,
    but it is against the COLREGS. There are so many of the COLREG's that don't
    make sense. Studying for my Captain's license, we have taken them apart.
    They are too complex, and too many professional captains, yet alone
    recreational skippers, don't really know them well. But we are stuck with
    them in the courts.

    Greg Daley
    s/v Principessa
    a Newport 41
    Marina Del Rey, CA

    In a message dated 09/26/2001 11:12:06 AM Atlantic Daylight Time,
     writes:

    > Since when is the stand down vessel supposed to throttle back when being
    > overtaken? By law, all vessels are responsible for their wakes and the
    > damage it causes. I know it is rare, but I do know of a motor vessel
    who's
    > owner, throttles back when passing, slows way down if passing kayaks, or
    > moored boats. Rare indeed.
    > _Mike
    >
    >

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