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Re: lv-ab: Nav Lights/ Day shapes

From: Rosalie B. (no email)
Date: Wed Sep 19 2001 - 09:04:17 EDT

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    On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:23:19 -0400, you wrote:

    >Anyway, this discussion got me thinking about a lot of the big ocean races
    >who, while they, I assume, have some sort of breakable seal on their
    >transmission, will run their engines periodically to charge batteries for
    >voice, email, and satellite communications.
    >
    >Granted they're sailing way off established shipping routes in big oceans,
    >but in the event of some off the wall traffic conflict while they're
    >charging batteries, does that make them power vessels?

    What has been brought up several times is - it doesn't matter unless there
    is a collision. Then the lawyers decide.

    We do fly the dayshape when motor sailing. Those of you who've said
    they've never seen it are obviously not watching us <g>

    In any case, a more pertinent question is:

    How many power boaters will know what the heck the cone means? How many
    large ships will be looking, or will care? If no one knows what it means,
    does it matter? Or as Norm put it -
    > "If a man says something, and there is no woman around, is he still wrong?"

    The answer to Norm's question is of course Yes - the answer to the question
    about day shapes is - it doesn't matter. Power boaters will still do
    whatever they think appropriate, whatever that is - many of them thinking
    that sailboats are crazy unpredictable hazards. Large ships will still
    proceed on their impervious way knowing that they will not be the one to
    sink. Sailboats will continue to motor sail with or without dayshapes and
    some of them will think they have the ROW over all power vessels, and some
    will know better.

    >>
    >> I also saw a rather legalistic discussion of what "in use" meant.
    >However,
    >> that discussion stuck to a reading of the law while failing to mention the
    >> various court interpretations of the wording. I think it was Hugo Black
    >> that said, "the Law is what I say it is."
    >>
    >> In any event, this legalistic discussion has do with legal wrangling after
    >> the collision. I still think it's the best policy to avoid close
    >proximity
    >> with any hard object by day or by night, be it boat, rock, or piling.
    >>
    >> It is, of course, "easier to stay out than to get out".
    >> --Mark Twain

    grandma Rosalie
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