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Re: lv-ab: RE: Boat Security

From: Rosalie B. (no email)
Date: Wed Jul 18 2001 - 20:40:56 EDT

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    On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:11:46 -0700, you wrote:
    Norm wrote:
    >>
    >>Your message about boat security shows that an attachment was included. We
    >>don't do attachments due to the sometimes long times required to receive the
    >>files (we do email via cell phone) and the possibility of viruses.

    and Bill answered:

    >NORM,
    >
    >I did not put an attachment on my e-mail. I do no know how up that way. I
    >would not send an attachment , knowing the security problem.

    Bill- your outlook or some other software attached a winmail.dat file to
    your message which basically said:

    SMTP:

    Subsequent posts do not have this winmail.dat file - maybe it was written
    on a different computer or something. But it is clear to me that you
    **DID** whether inadvertently or not, attach something to the e-mail.

    >I realize that the cheapest way to cruise is to anchor and dingy to a
    >marina. You could spend all day ashore eating, shopping and enjoying the
    >sights. Meanwhile your boat with your expensive computer (and all it's
    >valuable data), your electronics and all your personal items is left
    >unprotected.

    As far as the computer goes - mine is not expensive. As far as the data
    goes - save it somewhere other than the hard drive. The question is not
    whether the hard drive will crash, but when. People will rarely steal data
    disks, I would think.

    There is an chapter in Pardee's book "The Cost Conscious Cruiser" about
    securing the boat when you go off for a day/week/month/several months.
    Basically they say - do you own your boat, or does your boat own you. The
    tips they give are:
     
    1) Don't leave the boat in an open roadstead or an unprotected area.
    2) Try not to leave your boat where there is a big theft problem.
    3) **DO** leave it near liveaboards.
    4) If for more than overnight, have someone sleep on board if you can.
    5) Remove all electronics evidence from outside of boat
    6) Don't discuss your plans on the radio.

    >It is very hart if not impossible to secure your boat from theft or
    >vandalism. My boat was broken into on a mooring in front of a yacht club. I
    >filed a claim with my insurance company and was reimbursed; but, how many
    >times can you file a theft claim before your insurance will not be renewed?

    We lock the boat up, but that would probably only keep out the amateurs and
    honest people. My thought is that things, even expensive toys, are less
    important that our life and health. If going ashore to shop or eat or
    travel gives us pleasure, and if we try our best to guard against theft,
    then we've done all we can. Cruising would not be fun if we had to cower
    on the boat all the time.

    It is the same ashore. Do you have alarms on your house and car? We
    don't. We drive old cars, and we have an old house, with nothing much
    worth someone's while to steal. Or at least it looks like there's nothing
    much to steal. It's stuff we like - but it hasn't got much open market
    value. A lot of it would have gone to the dump long ago in other people's
    houses.

    We've had a car broken into once and when the thief got inside he found the
    speakers that he saw were cheap ones, so he didn't bother to actually take
    them.

    grandma Rosalie
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