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Re: lv-ab: Catamaran life...

From: SnJ - (no email)
Date: Tue Jul 10 2001 - 11:10:24 EDT

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    In the article that I read about the racing cat pitch poling, two small tugs
    or fishing boats came out when the weather calmed down. As I recall it, they
    rolled the cat upright over the beam (which made sense to me since it is
    narrower than the length). It was a while ago that I read it, but as I
    recall they basically tied a bridle under the vessel to one side, and one
    over the vessel to the opposite side. They both pulled in opposite
    directions. One side sank a bit (positive floatation minimized that though)
    while the other lifted up and over. Then, with her sitting low in the water,
    they ran some pumps and emptied her out. One injured crewman (broken nose
    and arm) was kept out of the way while the others reboarded the cat and
    pumped the bilge manually, and loaded a gas driven pump that emptied the sea
    water out. The vessel sustained some damage, but the crew did manage to
    live aboard her upside down for two or three days until they were rescued.
    They managed to retrieve some jerry cans of water that were strapped to the
    pushpit.

    By the way, here is an interesting fact. When I needed delivery (crew)
    services not long ago, every delivery service that I contacted (six or
    seven) told me that as long as it's a cat with positive floatation, I didn't
    need to rent a life raft for them. They require life rafts for ocean
    passages on mono hulls though. Interesting huh?

    Now I know there are some reading along who think...yea well, in a monohull
    it would have simply righted itself and they could have headed home safe and
    sound. I would highly encourage everyone thinking so to consider:

    - What might happen to the mast, boom, and sails as the vessel rolls?
    Especially if the sails are up (likely) when she rolls.

    - What might happen to the vessel if the companionway or a hatch is left
    open, or a hatch implodes from the force of the roll.

    I am not trying to make a case for multis being safer than monos, I am just
    trying to encourage people to reason things out clearly before rushing to
    judgement in either direction.

    IMHO:

    Don't believe that you can't roll a multihull. You can if you work at it, or
    get really unlucky.

    Don't believe that rolling a mono hull is like taking a pleasant walk in the
    park either.

    Do believe that the sea can get VERY nasty very quickly. Believe that it is
    prudent to sail as safely as you can given the type of boat you choose.
    Believe that no matter what boat you choose, you can still die out there.

    ~stepping down offa the soap box now~

    >From: Richard Goodwin <>
    >To: ShanicaJII <>
    >CC:
    >Subject: Re: lv-ab: Catamaran life...
    >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:31:34 -0400
    >
    > > You can right a flipped cat, Its well documented, You need a good
    >Dinghy
    >
    >Cool! I was thinking also of having an inflatable balloon built into
    >the top of the mast, with a CO2 cartridge or hand pump, to help bring
    >the mast top up to the surface. Once the mast tip is on the surface, it
    >shouldn't take that much to get it the rest of the way over. In fact if
    >the reason it flipped in the first place was waves, then the same waves
    >ought to flip it upright if you can just get the mast tip to the
    >surface. Might take a pretty big balloon for a large cat, though.
    >
    >Dick
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