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Re: lv-ab: rebuilt Delco externally regulated alternator

From: Larry DeMers (no email)
Date: Mon Apr 02 2001 - 07:57:25 EDT

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    Tom,

      Any ideas as to who is selling the Hitachi or Leese Nelville units? I have not
    seent hem in the catalogs, but if they are as popular as the survey suggests,
    then there has to be a good source somewhere. It just so happens that I was
    looking at Balmar 75A units this weekend. Pretty pricey alright.

    Thanks,

    Larry DeMers
    s/v DeLaMer
    Cape Dory 30

    Tom O'Meara wrote:

    > At 06:19 PM 3/28/01 -0800, Richard Tomkinson wrote:
    > >Stop fooling with hocky ideas of remaking alternators.
    > >
    > >Do your own research. Go to Ample Power web sit and Balmar web site and read
    > >every word on alternators. These guys are serious suppliers who really know
    > >their products and applications.
    > >
    > >Then spend some money, this time on an informed basis.
    > >
    > >I am not advocating you buy an Ample or Balmar alternator, just that you get
    > >serious about the solution.
    > >Richard
    >
    > Serious? Um, OK Richard... I'm SERIOUS! :)
    >
    > The last one of these "hocky" (sic) alternators I had ran perfectly for 6
    > years and may be running still.
    >
    > As to your exhortation to "spend some money", well, OK. I did that. I
    > spent about $75.00.
    >
    > Lets see now, West Marine sells the Balmar "94-124" for $999.00. When we
    > work the numbers on this we find that I can use and just throw away 13
    > (thirteen) of the converted alternators for the price of 1 (one) Balmar.
    >
    > Since, in my own experience, the "hocky" alternator lasted six years, that
    > comes to at least 78 (seventy-eight) years of useful life. Balmars are
    > probably good alternators (see below), but I do not believe one will last
    > 78 years. As for Ample Power units, I would not have one aboard my boat
    > (also see below).
    >
    > Since I will probably not be here 78 years from now, no matter how hard I
    > try otherwise, the expenditure of $75 bucks a whack for an alternator
    > during this lifetime is fine with me.
    >
    > Especially in my application. I have a Bukh (Westerbeke) DV-20
    > diesel. This little 20 hp diesel will have no problems spinning the
    > Delco. The alternator is externally regulated and there will be a switch
    > in the winding lead to disable the alternator and remove the load
    > entirely. This will take some monitoring on my part, but what the hell,
    > life is hard and then you die.
    >
    > Now, as to the brilliant reputation of Balmar and, especially, Ample
    > Power... I have in my hand the latest SSCA Cruising Equipment Survey...
    >
    > Survey says....
    >
    > The Ample Power alternators finished number 11 out of 12. Thats right...
    > next to dead last. They were blessed with a rating that equated their
    > equipment with, to use a technical term, "crap".
    >
    > The only alternator rated worse was a Prestolite and it was stuck down
    > there because only one respondent rated them at all and he was not a happy
    > camper, thereby skewing the results.
    >
    > The Balmar and Delco alternators were right on the average score of
    > 1.75. Balmar being rated 1.75 and Delco being rated 1.90. They were rated
    > numbers 8 and 9 respectively with an almost identical "complaint" rate
    > (0.10 and 0.11)
    >
    > By the way, Hitachi and Leece Neville were rated numbers 1 and 2 respectively.
    >
    > So, Richard, I would urge you to go forth and follow your own advice...
    > "get serious about a solution" and "do research". I did that and am
    > perfectly happy to live with the result.
    >
    > Fair Winds,
    >
    > Tom
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