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RE: lv-ab: owner financing?

From: Rich, Michael (no email)
Date: Mon Jan 08 2001 - 10:29:16 EST

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    On the other hand, don't rule out owner financing. While there are risks
    associated with this, there is also a good opportunity if investigated
    thoroughly.
     
    The prospective applicant should supply you with a credit report, financial
    statement including a budget, employment records and personal references so
    you know who your dealing with. There could be actual savings to the owners
    associated with owner financing. For example: Calculate the cost involved
    for the owners of a nearly 20 year old 40' sailboat sitting 'For Sale' in
    Annapolis for a couple years racking up yard storage costs, insurance
    premiums and succumbing to the elements and then the benefit of getting a
    premium price. Some people with a boat for sale have just bought another
    larger boat and don't want the problems of two boats in two different
    places.
     
    Then bring in a reliable person(s) with a steady, more or less perm income
    i.e. Gov't, Military or retired (not a dot.com). That person's situation
    might be post divorce and low on cash, but high in monthly income. Then you
    as the owner would have a steady stream of income over multiple years with
    interest. I have owner financed two sailboats including my current 37'
    ketch. Each time I wrote up the contract which was reviewed by legal
    counsel including an admiralty lawyer (my brother). The vessel has to be
    CG doc'd, insured to certain minimums and name the owner financing as the
    lien holder of record.
     
    >From this experience, I have also made good friends with the previous
    owners. They are fully supportive and available for questions and really
    like to see the 'old girl' as she is refit, remodeled and brought up to
    date. mike

     -----Original Message-----
    From: Larry DeMers [mailto:]
    Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 9:45 AM
    To: Jim Lynch
    Cc:
    Subject: Re: lv-ab: owner financing?

    Jim Lynch wrote:

    That's assuming you can find it. 8) Boats have more hiding places than
    homes or cars.

     wrote:
    >
    > "I don't think so. Some owners may be desparate to sell a boat this way,
    > but as a seller I'd be concerned that the new owner would find some reason

    > to withold payment when his "dream boat" is viewed in the light of day and

    > doesn't look so great. EVERY boat has problems. "
    >
    > But if you already have 80 to 90% of the price, and you DON'T GIVE IT BACK
    if they default - just repossess the boat when they miss a payment, I'd
    think that would be win-win situation for the seller.
    > grandma Rosalie, CSY 44
     

            ....There is also something that happens to a persons mind when they
    are in the clutches of a default on a loan. They frequently are strapped for
    cash, they could care less about maintenance items, as they know they are in
    trouble so the boat starts a spiral path downwards. One thing fails, another
    fails, never getting fixed, causing a cascading failure scenario. You may
    get that boat back after all normal legal channels are used up, but the
    condition may be less than desireable (!).

      We have had to face this situation with a little restaurant that we own,
    and have for sale now. Lots of buyers if the owner is financing the
    purchase..few buyers if the bank or perspective owner is to fund the
    purchase. Be very careful, as the boats condition that you get back may be
    so bad that the boat cannot be resold without the missed maintenance,
    resulting in more work than you bargained for.

    Larry DeMers
    s/v DeLaMer
    Cape Dory 30

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